all this talk about the fiscal cliff is peanuts compared to the importance of what is happening in monetary policy. >> that is correct and the fiscal stimulus not so important. ben bernankeemaintaining quantitative easing for prolonged period of time gives investors confidence as opposed to taking the punch bowl away with quantitative easing of the mitt romney as president so when the fed says they will keep interest rates relatively low we are absolutely low and some time in 2013 you have to believe that. liz: the journal says qe 4 is coming. he is coming up in a minute because he got a big scoop yesterday on q e 4. great to have you on the program. the dow 14,000, you are obviously the bull, what would get us there and in what period of time? >> nice to be on with you. i think when we look at the technicals here we are seeing a strong landscape of many individual stocks representing broad diverse leadership. this would not say if the expectations were for a fault of of the fiscal cliff. the market has been resilient in the face of a lot of headline news in recent years and i think as tom